Welcome to episode #43 We’re thrilled to be joined by Andrew McDonald today!
Andrew goes by the moniker, The Neurodivergent Copywriter. He helps neurodivergent entrepreneurs to build successful marketing outreach campaigns that honor who they are, allowing them to reach their true potential. Andrew is neurodivergent himself. He understands how challenging typical marketing strategies can be for neurodivergent individuals. So, he offers guidance in avoiding high-stress, sleazy, hard-sale strategies. Instead, Andrew focuses on building strong customer and client communities around businesses run by neurodivergent individuals, ensuring these businesses thrive and remain sustainable.
Welcome to the show Andrew!
Questions
JN: Can you tell us about your experience with neurodiversity? When did you realize that you weren’t neurotypical? What challenges did you face? What is it like now?
Always felt like he didn’t fit in
But only identified in the last few years.
Has had CPTSD for decades
OCD has been a lifelong
RSD
Anxiety and depression
Introverted
Doesn’t mind being around people.
But not his happy place
Went against the common advice of building a business
Until stumbling on a neurodivergent entrepreneur summit
Able to find what was congruent with
Skill set
Personality
Some things that didn’t work
Fake it until you make it
Cold prospecting
E.g. not being a fan of cold emails
Because of rejection sensitivity - there’s a lot of rejection in cold emails.
Took a different route. Used the content / inbound marketing approach.
Coping mechanisms
Coping with stress
Taking strategic breaks (a day or a couple of days)
Meditation
Awareness of mental state
Self-compassion
Got there through experimentation
JC: What "work" projects are you concentrating on?
Works with ND entrepreneurs
Because he had a tough journey himself with unhelpful neurotypical advice: “Reach 6 figures in 6 months working from home in your pajamas”
Helps ND entrepreneurs build communities that know like and trust them - they’ll be better qualified, stick around for longer, and refer you
Sustainable sales
Gradual growth allows time to build up business systems
JN: How about the rest of the time? What do you enjoy doing in your off time?
Sport
Sports addict. Watching sports every day
Rugby league: St Helens
Broncos fan
Basketball
Soccer
Boxing
Enjoys sports but finds it tougher as we get older.
But the rest of the family isn’t into it
Movies
Particularly old stuff
Learning languages
Spanish
Speaks Italian and French
JC: What does your morning routine look like and how has it evolved over time?
Wakes up around 10 am
Espresso (coffee)
Start work immediately (frees up the evening)
Breakfast after 30 minutes
Then back to work
JN: What do you do to optimize productivity during your working hours?
Espressos (multiple)
Strategic breaks
Taking day(s) off.
An hour lunch break.
Owe them to people you’re working with - to give them your 100% battery.
Meditation
COMMERCIAL BREAK
JC: What is one habit you'd like to remove from your life (either a bad habit or one that takes up too much time)?
Alcohol was causing issues - close to alcoholism
Now has been sober for five years
Sinclair Method
Take naltrexone an hour or two before you drink
Blocks the reward pathways
Breaks the vicious cycle of alcohol
Becomes like drinking any other liquid
End up drinking less over time
Vicious cycle: drinking to feel better but then the effects of drinking lead to feeling worse
JN: How do you switch off at night?
Listening to old radio comedies.
Classical music
JC: What resources (books, philosophies, apps, sensory toys) do you find most helpful for productivity and habit formation?
Bluetak = an awesome fidget toy
“The subtle art of not giving a f*ck” by Mark Manson
Pete Best (5th Beatle) vs Mustaine (Metallica / Megadeth)
JN: Where can people connect with you or find your work?
andrewmcdonald.biz
Free guide andrewmcdonald.biz/book
Social media
LinkedIn
Uses moderately - otherwise becomes a trigger.
JC: Do you have any final words or asks for our audience?
If you find the typical strategies you’ve been taught don’t work (and you’ve given them a good shot), the problem might not be you, it might be the strategies.
There are multiple ways to be successful. It’s important to enjoy the process.